How To Adjust Rbz Driver
On the RBZ if you decrease loft are you opening the face?
I really liked the way the RBZ Tour set up, but I tried it at 9*, and standard setting. I would need to take loft off if go in this direction. I just want to be comfortable the club will have the same alignment behind the ball.
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Adjust the loft of your TaylorMade driver to maximize your driving distance and spin by using the driver wrench to loosen the screw directly beneath the club's shaft. Once the screw is removed, rotate the shaft to the appropriate setting by reading the numbers on the bottom of the shaft. You can adjust the loft to varying degrees between 8 and 12. Aug 25, 2015 Set the driver to the highest loft and you’ll see a closed face. Set it to the lowest loft and the face will be open. For those interested in the “why,” here it is: the driver you bought only has one loft. If it’s a 10 degree driver, it will always be 10 degrees, no matter how you twist it.
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- #2If you 'lower' the loft the face is open (for right hander I am assuming) and if you raise the loft the face is closed.
I believe you can get more info on how each setting effects the face angle on the taylormade website - #3I did look at the website. Kind of thin on data by WRX standards. Here's what they say:
Flight Control Technology (FCT) allows you to tune your launch angle by increasing or decreasing the RBZ Tour driver's loft by 1.5 degree higher or 1.5 degree lower. Eight FCT positions allow you to tune the loft in accurate increments. - #4In order for the face to be a higher loft AT IMPACT the fact will need to be 1.5 degrees closed. The at impact is the part in which they are referring to, therefore at address the face orientation will be either 1.5 degree open or closed depending on what orientation you have it at (lower or higher)
- #5If you check the TM website, you can see the graphic of how the adjustment works. It looks like the face opens and closes relative to loft as you would expect. Unlike the R11 which has separate methods of adjustment, the RBZ only has one. Click on the arrows in 'tune for extreme distance' and watch the driver in the lower right - you can see the face angle changing. Hope this helps.
http://www.taylormadegolf.com/products/drivers/rocketballz-tour-driver - #6Yeah, I saw that. Hard to ascertain imo from that tiny cartoon.
So do y'all think they took technology OUT of the RBZ tip? - #7When you change the loft of a driver with ANY of the adjustable hosel systems, you are changing the face angle as well. No matter what TM or Titleist doesn't say. At least with the R11, you can maybe counter it with the thingy that changes the way the head sits. With the Titleist system, what you are able to do is change the loft/ face angle independently of the lie angle. Not change the loft independently of the face angle, which cannot be done with a hosel adjustment.Driver 915 D2
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On the RBZ if you decrease loft are you opening the face?
I really liked the way the RBZ Tour set up, but I tried it at 9*, and standard setting. I would need to take loft off if go in this direction. I just want to be comfortable the club will have the same alignment behind the ball.
Thanks guys.
That would be an incorrect statement, Titleist face angle changes just like every other adjustable driver when modifying loft. - #9
Yeah, I saw that. Hard to ascertain imo from that tiny cartoon.
So do y'all think they took technology OUT of the RBZ tip?
No, any time you adjust loft it's done by opening or closing the face at address. When you lower the loft you open the face at address. In order to get the decreased loft, you're closing the face down at impact, delofting the driver. Think of it like a wedge at impact. When hitting a flop shot (adding loft) you open it and keep it open. We're you to close the face at impact, with it open at address, you're rotating it closed and delofting it, opening it and holding it open through impact adds loft. To flight the ball straight with the driver, you have to have, essentially, a closing stroke in order to square the face at impact and achieve the lower loft. Clear as mud? - edited Apr 23, 2012#10
Yeah, I saw that. Hard to ascertain imo from that tiny cartoon.
So do y'all think they took technology OUT of the RBZ tip?
No, any time you adjust loft it's done by opening or closing the face at address. When you lower the loft you open the face at address. In order to get the decreased loft, you're closing the face down at impact, delofting the driver. Think of it like a wedge at impact. When hitting a flop shot (adding loft) you open it and keep it open. We're you to close the face at impact, with it open at address, you're rotating it closed and delofting it, opening it and holding it open through impact adds loft. To flight the ball straight with the driver, you have to have, essentially, a closing stroke in order to square the face at impact and achieve the lower loft. Clear as mud?
Yes, let's just take this principle as a given. Everyone understands this.
With the Titleist tip, there is are 2 adjustments being made: loft and lie. Plus the tip is curved, so the wedge/bending analogy isn't exactly on target based on what I know.
Maybe a better question is: 'how does the RBZ tip work?' - #11
No, any time you adjust loft it's done by opening or closing the face at address. When you lower the loft you open the face at address. In order to get the decreased loft, you're closing the face down at impact, delofting the driver. Think of it like a wedge at impact. When hitting a flop shot (adding loft) you open it and keep it open. We're you to close the face at impact, with it open at address, you're rotating it closed and delofting it, opening it and holding it open through impact adds loft. To flight the ball straight with the driver, you have to have, essentially, a closing stroke in order to square the face at impact and achieve the lower loft. Clear as mud?
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THIS - #12Ok, I am looking through old 910 threads and I see that the surefit tip does not maintain the face angle when loft is changed.
(although the WRX offical review seems to state otherwise, but that's probably just poorly written)
So, what changes on the TM tips? Loft and lie at the same time?
If I want 8 degrees and square, I am basically sol, correct? - #13
Ok, I am looking through old 910 threads and I see that the surefit tip does not maintain the face angle when loft is changed.
(although the WRX offical review seems to state otherwise, but that's probably just poorly written)
So, what changes on the TM tips? Loft and lie at the same time?
If I want 8 degrees and square, I am basically sol, correct?
You need r11 or r11s with ASP technology...you would then open the face for de-lofting but ASP allows you to set face angle for a visual effect back to square..clear as mud /friends.gif' alt=':friends:' /> - #14Nothing has changed on the RBZ tip, from a technology standpoint. It works just like the FCT did in the R9, R11 and R11s. The differences are in the degrees to which each cog is effecting the setup.
- #15All the systems work the same - the shaft goes in at a slight angle to the hosel so as you swivel the shaft, the angle of the face changes - this effects the effective loft. Look closer at the Titleist chart - it says 'effective loft' +1 -1 etc. The TM priciple is exactly the same priciple but instead of labeling their adjustments open or closed, they've now changed the wording to higher or lower (presumably as loft adjustment is seen as a more desirable trait that face angle adjustment)
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Ok, I am looking through old 910 threads and I see that the surefit tip does not maintain the face angle when loft is changed.
(although the WRX offical review seems to state otherwise, but that's probably just poorly written)
So, what changes on the TM tips? Loft and lie at the same time?
If I want 8 degrees and square, I am basically sol, correct?
Well, a lot of people have misunderstood the Titleist system, so don't feel bad.
Yes, the TM changes loft and face angle together, plus the lie angle. I don't know about the R11, but in other adjustable heads I've messed with, neutral was not square. Neutral was neutral, which was another way of saying a typical 1º closed. IF yours is actually a bit closed at neutral, and you want square, you could get that by reducing the loft. Or put it another way, when you reduce the loft, you are opening the face angle. If it is closed at [cough] neutral, it will be square at some lower loft setting. So you might luck out.
Here's the thing, do you hover the club at address? If so, just go ahead and set it at 8º and forget it. But if you sole the club at address, then you'll have to play with the sole thingy till it sits the way you want to see it.
Clear as mud?
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Edit to add: I see you have a Tour head, so maybe it is truly square by design at neutral. I'll leave my explanation stand for information purposes though.Driver 915 D2
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Odyssey Jailbird Mini - #17That brings up another issue..
Tour vs. Tour TP
They come in different lofts, so despite the notion that only the shafts change, something is up.. - #18No they don't. You might be able to get the TP shaft in the non tour head, but the Tour and the Tour TP is the same head.
- edited Apr 23, 2012#19
Yeah, I saw that. Hard to ascertain imo from that tiny cartoon.
So do y'all think they took technology OUT of the RBZ tip?
No, any time you adjust loft it's done by opening or closing the face at address. When you lower the loft you open the face at address. In order to get the decreased loft, you're closing the face down at impact, delofting the driver. Think of it like a wedge at impact. When hitting a flop shot (adding loft) you open it and keep it open. We're you to close the face at impact, with it open at address, you're rotating it closed and delofting it, opening it and holding it open through impact adds loft. To flight the ball straight with the driver, you have to have, essentially, a closing stroke in order to square the face at impact and achieve the lower loft. Clear as mud?
Yes, let's just take this principle as a given. Everyone understands this.
With the Titleist tip, there is are 2 adjustments being made: loft and lie. Plus the tip is curved, so the wedge/bending analogy isn't exactly on target based on what I know.
Maybe a better question is: 'how does the RBZ tip work?'
All the tips are interchangeable in the TM drivers. The RBZ tip is the same as the others it's just a different color and has different markings. - #20
No they don't. You might be able to get the TP shaft in the non tour head, but the Tour and the Tour TP is the same head.
It looks like the Tour TP is a 9.5* while the Tour is 9.0*
confused - #21I have a Tour TP I got direct from a TMag rep that's a 9 degree.
Proof on the right:
That's when it was brand new, head only. - #22The RBZ and RBZ Tour heads are different. They come in different lofts, and the Tour head is a different shape, with a deeper face.
- #23OK, I checked back at TGW and now the TOUR and TOUR TP have the same lofts. The different lofts could have been a typo previously.
..or maybe I was just super confused by the redundancy of the term 'tour tour preferred'.. - #24
The RBZ and RBZ Tour heads are different. They come in different lofts, and the Tour head is a different shape, with a deeper face.
I think he was refering to the RBZ Tour vs RBZ TP, not the standard RBZ which is a shallow face. - Leather for Life!!MembersPosts: 5,511✭✭✭✭✭✭✭WOW! What a discussion. I have been researching these drivers / fairway clubs for the last week and I think I can clear some things up here. First, the loft adjustment is simply rotating the sleeve which is nothing more than a bent tip. Now, in the old days, if you wanted to increase the loft of a metal wood, you clamped it so that the face was square to the clamp and bent the shaft forward the desired number of degrees. The TM sleeve does the same thing. Does this effect the face angle? Yes! When the bend increases the loft, it also lowers the back of the clubhead (part farthest from the face). This will cause the face angle to close if you sit the clubhead on the ground in the address position because the sole near the back of the clubhead touches the ground before the sole near the face. Inversely, if you decrease the loft, the club will turn open when placed on the ground.
With the R11 / R11s, You can counter this by adjusting the sole plate piece. With the RBZ, you can not. What you will have to do to get a square face at address is physically set it square and hold it there.
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Adding loft on the R9 (same as RBZ) closes face angle. I think the tour model heads or tour spoon are 1 degree open at neutral. Others (15deg 3W-4W-5W wood) are square at neutral. In looking at RBZ specs I would assume the same. I don't see that from ball flight on the 910. I see that loft changes loft and open - closed changes face angle and lie angle.
910D3 driver 9.5 deg - B2
R9 3W 13 deg - L
R9 4W 17 deg - step between NU and L
I feel I had to add more loft to the 13 deg 3W to close the face the same as the 17 deg 4W because it is the tour spoon which supposedly is for better players instead of high launch players like me.
Your results may vary. - #27I wish I could've just chimed in and answered the question for you first.
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If you read through the thousands of comments that have been posted on PluggedInGolf.com, you’ll notice a few themes – people thanking us for our informative reviews, people telling us our reviews are crap, and people asking for recommendations – but the most frequently asked question is, “How do I adjust my driver?” With that in mind, I thought I’d write a full length explanation of how adjustable drivers work and how you can get the most out of them.
This Lesson Is For You If:
You have an adjustable driver
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Hosel Adjustments – Loft, Lie, and Face Angle
Loft and Face Angle
When TaylorMade launched the R9 family of drivers, they talked about hosel adjustments in terms of left and right, i.e. closing or opening the club face. Six years later, the conversation has changed to adjusting loft. Here’s what you need to understand: adjusting the loft means changing the face angle and vice versa.
Here’s the simple version of the loft/face angle relationship:
When you add loft, you are closing the face. When you remove loft, you are opening the face
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This is counterintuitive, but if you experiment with your own adjustable driver you’ll see that it’s correct. Set the driver to the highest loft and you’ll see a closed face. Set it to the lowest loft and the face will be open.
For those interested in the “why,” here it is: the driver you bought only has one loft. If it’s a 10 degree driver, it will always be 10 degrees, no matter how you twist it. By twisting it (changing the face angle), however, you are taking what was a 10 degree driver with a square face and making it a 10 degree driver that is, for example, 2 degrees closed. Now, to get that face square at impact, you need to open that 10 degree driver a couple degrees, thus adding loft.
Lie Angle
The adjustment that most manufacturers have, but few talk about, is lie angle. Instead of calling it a lie angle adjustment, most manufacturers talk about fade, neutral, or draw settings. This is code for making the lie angle flatter, neutral, or more upright, respectively.
PING
Ping’s G30 adapter is fairly straightforward: there’s a circle which indicates that the club face is square and has the stated loft. Then there are big and small plus and minus signs indicating that you can add or subtract 0.6° or 1.0° of loft. Remember, when you add loft, the face closes; when you subtract loft, the face opens.
Cobra
True to their “golf should be fun” ethos, Cobra has the simplest, best-labeled adapter on the market. Each loft is clearly labeled, and the one you select shows up in a window on the hosel. The “Draw” settings indicated a more upright lie angle.
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Titleist has used the same adapter since they got into the adjustable driver game (yay!), but it requires a reference card to use it (boo!). It’s a two-ring adapter with four positions on each ring – 1,2,3,4 and A,B,C,D – allowing for a total of 16 settings. The loft adjustments range from subtracting 0.75° to adding 1.5°. The lie angle adjustments follow the same pattern.
TaylorMade
No one has created more different adapters over the years than TaylorMade. Their current generation of drivers strive for simplicity with their “Higher” and “Lower” labels. This sleeve allows you to add or subtract 2° of loft.
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Callaway
Callaway, like TaylorMade, has run through a number of different adapters over the last few years, but they seem to have settled on the Opti-Fit+. This is a two-ring adapter, much like Titleist’s, but using it is much simpler. You can use the two rings to select a Neutral (N) or Draw (D) lie angle, and subtract 1° of loft or add 1° or 2°.
Nike
Nike is second only to Cobra in making hosel adjustments easy to understand. Their STR8-FIT adapter has two rings: one for selecting loft, the other for selecting face angle (left, right, or straight). The loft is adjustable across five degrees.
Adjustable Weights
When it comes to adjustable weights, there are essentially two types of systems: sliding weights and removable weights. Both of these systems are governed by the same rules, so I’ll focus on the types of movements/adjustments you can make and the effects they will have. If you have a good grasp of Gear Effect, all of this will be very simple. Also keep in mind that any of these changes can also affect the way the club feels during the swing.
Moving Weight Towards the Toe or Heel
This is the easiest adjustment to understand: the ball will go towards the weight. If you move the weight toward the toe, the ball will be more inclined to fade or slice. If you move the weight toward the heel, the ball will be more likely to draw or hook.
Also realize that when you move a significant amount of weight toward the toe or heel, you will move the sweet spot. If you consistently hit the heel or toe of the driver, you might adjust the weight to move the sweet spot towards your normal contact point.
Moving Weight Forward or Backward
This is the hotadjustment of 2015 – Cobra’s FlipZone and Nike’s FlexFlight are both good examples of it. According to the manufacturers, when the weight moves back, the driver becomes higher launching and lower spinning, and with the weight forward, the ball flight is lower with more spin. I also think that moving the weight forward and back has the biggest impact on feel. Finally, realize that with the weight further back, there’s more gear effect.
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Moving Weight to the Perimeter or Centering It
When you move weight toward the perimeter, the MOI increases and the driver becomes more forgiving. When you center the weight, the MOI shrinks and it becomes less forgiving.
Moving Weight Up and Down
When you move weight up, you make the club lower launching and higher spinning. Conversely, when you move weight down, you make the club higher launching and lower spinning.
Just as when you move the weight toward the toe or heel, you’re also moving the sweet spot. If you tend to hit the ball low on the face, moving weight down might make sense so you can have a more “pure” strike.
Conclusion
Hopefully with this information you’ll feel empowered to take full advantage of your adjustable driver. It is important to keep in mind that while adjustability is a great tool, it’s one that you should use sparingly. Set up your driver to fit your overall tendencies, then practice with it. If every missed fairway has you reaching for your wrench, you’re setting yourself up for trouble.
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